Is Pattaya the best place for a good whine?  or are Bangkok and Chiang Mai as good.   I always enjoy a good whine and since Pattaya is home of many old grumpy falangs,  I think the best whine is found there.

Wherever the old expats gather, you can find the good whines.

Try The Garden Bar.  It sometimes has some lovely whines.

The one I remember most clearly was from a man who used to be a friend, a retired British soldier.  I met him in the 1992 years, when the typical "tip" was 300-500 baht.

Fifteen years later, he had turned into a WGF ("Whining Gay Farang.")  He used to pontificate at the Garden Bar, that the "correct price" for a boy was 300 baht.  I later understood that it was even worse than that: he had procurers, and paid them the 300 baht.  What the boys actually got, I do not know.

Yes, folks, that's just how low it goes.  And the Nasty Queer in this movie has the frigging nerve to complain about Thailand.

I think I once called this dude for being a cheapskate, and he replied that anything more would spoil them for life on the streets when you threw them back there.

Oh, yes. And his Classic Whine!  During the Toxin war on drugs, this guy registered his vehement opposition to that war.  "This is a very bad idea!" said the former British soldier.

Why?  Because it would drive the price of drugs up!!!

I think I refrained from asking him whether he thought that Thai boys needed cheap drugs.  Upon reflection, I understand that his very low price for boys had been hit by Drug Inflation, and so he was angry.

How much lower can human beings go?

Regrettably, most of the old foreign whines in Thailand have not improved with age. Maybe it's something to do with the climate there? Inevitably they are corked, and are best spat onto the ground otherwise they will leave a very nasty sour taste in the mouth.

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Henry Cate wrote:

How much lower can human beings go?

OK, I'll say it .... A dachshund  

Narakmak wrote:

Wherever the old expats gather, you can find the good whines.

this is true..gay or straight..full of wine and whine.

Bwana wrote:

Henry Cate wrote:

How much lower can human beings go?

OK, I'll say it .... A dachshund  

Oh, Bwana, you've done it again...insulted the dachshund!   :-(

Gone Fishing is on your IGNORE list.