WARNING:  Although I find this topic rather interesting, I recognize that there are some people that may not.  So, I think there is enough information in the subject title, for those that aren't well enough, emotionally to deal with such topics.  If you think you might be offended, please don't read further.  If you do read further, you do so at your own risk, and with this warning you are reading now.  If you do read further, you therefore have no right to say I'm disgusting, or an idiot, or a troll, etc., at least in this topic.  This is not a funny topic, it is a serious question.  But you've been warned... OK, here's my comment:



The first time I "offed" a gogo boy, I took him to my room.  I told him he didn't have to do anything he didn't want to do, and he was free to leave whenever he wanted.  I asked him if he needed to use the bathroom, before the shower that I require.  He said he did.  



I observed him climb up on the toilet seat, with his feet on each side of the toilet seat, squatting in position, where he proceeded to go #2, (doody).  



I found this curious, as I found no reason for someone to have to go to this effort, with a western-style toilet there, that was perfectly clean and sanitized.  So why would a Thai person do this?  And because of the increased elevation from his bottom to the water in the toilet bowl, there surely was an increased risk of a big splash and mess being made.  



WARNING #2:  That is my comment, so if you read this far and wish to comment, please do, but I'm afraid you don't have the right to just call me names, as you were warned, and as you can see, this is a serious question.  

 

The boy was probably using it as he would a squat toilet.  It's still quite common to find a squat toilet in the maid's room or at the back of the house somewhere in modern Thai homes; squat toilets are still the norm in rural areas.

I recognize that, Yimsui, but it just didn't make sense to me to have to squat, when one could use a western-style flush toilet.  Why, oh why would someone still want to squat?  The only thing I can think of, (and this will get graphic, so if you're not well emotionally, stop reading NOW), is that perhaps in the squat position, the anal opening might be wider, and therefore a cleaner position to deal with, when the deed is over.  I still don't get it.



PS: Your serious reply was appreciated, and any future serious replies also appreciated.  No name calling please.  Remember, you've been warned about the nature of this topic.  

Edited by: ricky90069 at: 27/10/05 11:01 am

Do you think this boy felt comfortable while you were watching his toilet habits?

No, G., but it was in a semi-low budget hotel, where the bathroom was basically in the room.  I didn't go out of my way to watch him, that's just the way that room was set up.  And just last week, I stayed in a hotel outside Bangkok where there was a sliding glass door between the toilet and the bedroom.  Maybe in Thailand, watching others on the toilet is rather standard.



Back to the original question:  why, oh why would someone opt to squat when they didn't have to?



 

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The only thing I can think of, (and this will get graphic, so if you're not well emotionally, stop reading NOW), is that perhaps in the squat position, the anal opening might be wider, and therefore a cleaner position to deal with, when the dead is over. I still don't get it.

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I've read somewhere that the squatting position facilitates your bowel movements and helps to strengthen your muscles in that region in the long run.  The cleaning aspect is also true in that people in the rural areas use water scooped from a bucket instead of toilet paper so I guess the squatting position makes it a lot easier to 'hit the target'.



As for your boy, he might've been new to the city and hadn't grown accustomed to modern amenities.  Old habits die hard and some people do consider sitting on toilet seats unhygienic.  You get this in Japan and western countries too where it's not uncommon to find people lining toilet seats with toilet paper before sitting on them.  Some places even have disposable toilet-seat liners expressedly for this reason.

Edited by: Yimsuai  at: 27/10/05 11:16 am

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Why, oh why would someone still want to squat?

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Why do Homintern and I still genuflect on Sunday morn? - because that's the way we were brought up! It is engrained in our souls. How much deeper is the imprint of the ritual of defacation than the trappings of Popery.



Thrope built a house up country and suggested that a Western lavatory would be nice - we have a traditional country toilet 'cus that is what everyone wanted.



That's your answer Ricky IMHO.

So when do we get to the graphic bit?

Brett, did you miss the part about the anal opening?  I tried to keep it as G-rated as possible, just in case someone missed the two warnings.  



I have an idea:  why don't you start a topic, and tell us in total detail what it's like when you go #2.  Don't leave anything out, including describing the sounds.  And I'm talking ALL of the sounds.  



That reminds me, remember the scene in the movie The Last Emperor, when the child emperor's eunich's take the boy's doody, and examine it, and then proclaim something like, "MORE RICE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And wasn't there a scene in the movie Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, where one of the Australian queens is bragging about his going into a toilet stall, after a member of ABBA made a #2, but the toilet didn't completely flush, and he scooped it up, and preserved "The ABBA turd" in a jar, that he always kept with him.  Ahhhh, the memories.  

I recall a motorbike boy outside of Ambiance hotel several years ago, he adopted me to be his farang to take all over Pattaya, which amounted to going to Jomtien beach and Memory bar when it was in the north section of town. When he came to room he hopped up on the toilet seat and squated  easily and kept up chatting with me as if it was the most natural thing in the world. My uppers almost fell out, but I tried to project this is something I see every day.. He He He All these years and I still recall his long hair.    

Yeah, they can squat on the toilet seat...



but can they read at the same time?



(from someone who can't manage #2 without a magazine)



 

means less strain and therefore less likelihood of haemorrhoids. Westerners don't do it because medical practitioners and pharmeceutical companies prefer treatment to prevention. French restaurants, however, have what is called the "chiotte à la turque," which is simply the same squat toilet as found in Asia, etc.  The French, like lots of other people, think it's cleaner to use a squatting toilet than one where your ass touches the seat.

Edited by: cottmann at: 27/10/05 8:28 pm

We all have to poop!  

Edited by: WhiteDesire at: 28/10/05 7:35 am

"Brown Desire" may be a better nickname for you, then.

HappyO, I'm with you.  I can't make potty unless I have some reading material.  Sometimes I even have to scramble to quickly find something, anything, to read.  I was so desperate once, I grabbed a bottle of air freshener, and just started reading the label.  And I agree, CottM, there surely must be less strain in that squat position, but then it's impossible to keep your balance, AND read at the same time.  I have used some toilet seats which have the seat more angled, and help to keep that area wide, and strain-free.   And to scatty White desire, I saw in San Francisco several years ago, someone was marketing a toilet seat mounted to a 4 legged stand, which was about 18 inches above the floor, exactly for this purpose. That is, one could take a dump, and have it go directly into or on the scat queen positioned below.  I suppose also good for "golden showers".  



Despite all of this, if I had the choice, I would still use a western-style toilet.  By the way, I always take a shower after a b.m. It's critically important to clean that area, and dry it too.