Walking past Sunee Plaza...
Late Friday night August 17th...(at about 12:15am Saturday morning)...
and at the entrance to Sunee Plaza in front of Marina Inn Hotel...
3 Police Officers were standing at this entrance to Sunee Plaza...

I entered briefly and chatted a moment with owner of the club next to Jim,Jimmy,James...
and he said Police had made a complete sweep of all boys working and loitering around Sunee,
gathered them together to check ages and pee in a bottle for drug test.

The owner said the boys had been gathered several hours before..and not yet returned...
and that Police had cordoned off all entrances/exits to Sunee Plaza.

Not sure which Police Department(s) involved...the 3 Officers I saw were in light tan uniforms.

I turned around and left the Sunee Plaza the same way I entered.

TJ

Posted on Ting&Tongs Gay Thailand by Mrs Bucket (of Topman)

http://www.gaytingtong.com/topic1740.ht ... 74543a749a

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007

Post subject: Sunee Plaza Raids

Tonight at around 11p.m. local time Police from Bangkok, Chonburi & Pattaya raided Sunee Plaza.

All exits were sealed off and ALL Boys were taken from ALL Bars for drugs tests.

Sunee Plaza business suffers again.

Anyone have any further info.

not just Sunee... also pattayaland soi 3 for a start.

at 1am no boys had returned.

in Sunee earlier many boys had just shut up shot


Went to pattayaland... Dynamite was open but said as they had no boys left they'd close after the show

'not just Sunee... also pattayaland soi 3 for a start.'

The police raided Boyztown?

Boyztown seemed unaffected ' for tonight' to quote one owner, but certainly other parts of Pattayaland

You had me confused for a moment, as Pattayaland Soi 3 is Boyztown, and I was told that Sunee and Soi 1 had been the subject of the raids. Thanks for clearing it up anyway Globalwanderer.

I just hope the penalties for the bars will not be too stiff when their staff test positive for illegal drugs. Even the deterrent of regular in-house testing has its limitations.

sorry got the soi numbers mixed...as the bars were still operating i assume the penalties for the bars are minor

Atri on Ting&Tongs reports:

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:46 am

http://www.gaytingtong.com/topic1740.html .

"My friend epsy send me message. He stays in MarinaInn and was sitting in Wans Place
when the action starts.

Police was driving the boys together in front of Wans place - there is a big enough square -
about 100 boys.

No problems with farangs - only hunting for thai boys.

He was leaving with his friend to his room."

TJ

travelerjim wrote:Atri on Ting&Tongs reports:

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:46 am

http://www.gaytingtong.com/topic1740.html .

"My friend epsy send me message. He stays in MarinaInn and was sitting in Wans Place
when the action starts.

Police was driving the boys together in front of Wans place - there is a big enough square -
about 100 boys.

No problems with farangs - only hunting for thai boys.

He was leaving with his friend to his room."

TJ

TJ,

Why am I not surprised?

The Police, contrary to popular belief, are not stupid, couple with the fact that 95% of the boys are, and they know exactly where to target and get a result to please their bosses, look good in the newspapers and be "seen" to be actively combating crime to the outside World.

As the say. "just because a dog is born in a barn, doesn't make it a horse!" The main, not all, users of Yaa Baa frequent Sunnee Plaza and it is a known fact. You can paint, clean, wipe it, wash it, you cannot alter it.

It is the main point of contact for the tearaways, always has been for as long as can be remembered. It is also known for not being as strict on ID checks,ages and in general a more lacksidasical approach to business.

They also know it is a "flash in the pan" a "hazard of the job" and things will be back to normal in a day or so.

The Police, seldom descend on Pattayaland Soi 3, as usually they are wasting their time, the likelihood of success is minimal [ for what they are looking for, which is underage and drugs] and the bars are better run!

They raid Pattayaland Soi 3 occasionally to show even handedness.

If they want headlines, you know where they go and why. That is just how it is.

If you want the lower end of the market, don't shop at Harrods!

It would be nice also, if only for confusion's sake, if people would get it clear that Pattayaland Soi 3 is BOYZTOWN and the other two sois are Pattayaland 1 and 2.

It is not that difficult to grasp!

KQuill Qoute:

As the say. "just because a dog is born in a barn, doesn't make it a horse!" The main, not all, users of Yaa Baa frequent Sunnee Plaza and it is a known fact. You can paint, clean, wipe it, wash it, you cannot alter it.

Maybe it's jus too late at night...but what in the fuck are you talking about?

Kevin do you think this current raid would have been prompted by the murder of LMTU's friend last week? The murder had all the hallmarks of someone high on yaa baa.

I hate police especially corrupt and those on the Take. Here the only way a bar can operate if pays off the police ahead of time which kills off all the profit and reason for any one to venture out and try to make a go of it.

Dodger, I have heard that saying before , I don't think it an American line but I have heard it before. I think he was saying ... Well I'm not sure what he was saying... but the meaning of the phrase is because if looks like a dog barks like a dog doesn't mean it that it is a dog. That is the American version of the other. the other phrase is if it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck that don't make it a duck. All three mean the same things which is to say , you can never be sure of anything

Gaybutton has reported on the Sunee Plaza raid...

http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/index ... topic=1952 .

"Last night a friend and I took a little tour of Sunee Plaza. Several of our friends like to hang out
at the Corner Bar and we were on our way there to catch up with them at about 9:00 PM.

As we passed one bar, someone told us a raid is expected at about 10:00 PM. In other words, Sunee Plaza was tipped off.

When we caught up with our friends at Corner Bar, they also told us a raid is expected at about 10:00 PM.
At about 9:40, that's when we began to see the under-age boys starting to make their exit from Sunee Plaza.

A few minutes later I wanted to leave. I had no desire to be around when a raid occurs.

Naturally, just my luck, my car was parked just outside of Sunee Plaza. Guess who discovered
he had a flat tire! My friend called his own boyfriend, who has a tire pump. While we were waiting
for him to arrive, we cooled our heels at the Po Pot restaurant.

Sure enough, at about 10:20 the police started arriving . . . in droves. Pickup truck after pickup truck,
loaded with police officers, entered Sunee Plaza. A large number of individual officers also arrived on motorcycles.

We saw them block off Sunee Plaza. Any under-age boys or boys on drugs were now trapped.
From what I understand, the police drug-tested and checked ID's of every single boy in Sunee Plaza, whether they were working in a bar or not.

I have a feeling, though, the police didn't reel in too many boys considering that just about everybody
in Sunee Plaza knew the raid was coming, at least an hour and a half in advance.
The bars had plenty of time to get rid of their under-age boys and I'm sure the boys on drugs had plenty of time to escape as well.

Once I had the tire in decent shape I wasn't about to hang around to watch the rest of it,
but any boys who ended up caught in the net would have to be either deaf or total idiots.

Everyone knew this raid was coming.

Now, why would I be thinking that there just may be someone in the police department
who gets paid to tip off the bar scene when a raid, especially a major raid, is about to occur?"

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Thanks for sharing your insight GB...

TJ

Here is the correct version... If it quakes like a duck and walks like a duck, and looks like a duck, it probably is a duck.

Dodger wrote:KQuill Qoute:

As the say. "just because a dog is born in a barn, doesn't make it a horse!" The main, not all, users of Yaa Baa frequent Sunnee Plaza and it is a known fact. You can paint, clean, wipe it, wash it, you cannot alter it.

Maybe it's jus too late at night...but what in the fuck are you talking about?

Dodger,

Evertime the subject comes up and Sunnee is mentioned you get a million reasons from other members who will give you different reasons why Sunnee is raided usually blaming it on reasons totally unconnected to reality, saying what a great place it is and how much it has changed and why don't people understand, and that there is no underage,Yaa Baa etc etc. believing themseves, if they say it to enough people, enough times, they will be believed.

They then attempt to justify it stating what a fantastic job has been done of Don Plaza, the clubbing club etc to divert peoples attention and that it is now Cafe culture and it has all changed, the Police don't get it and are singling the place out etc etc

My point was, you can do what you want with it [Sunnee] and look at it any way you wish, you can't change what it really is, or pretend it is something else or different from what it is, that's what the term means.

I was actually getting in there first, before the barrage of defences began.

Sunnee is a haven for the Yaa Baa boys, the runaways, the underage, the thieves and those on the run from the law for one reason or another.

I go there, I visit David at Come Inn, Erich at Don Plaza,Peter at Krazy Dragon but I am usually well alert to what is going on, never kid myself it is something different, and don't get taken in by the 101 scams that are usually going on there simultaneously.

Aunty.

I don't think it is connected to LMTU's affair, they usually start these antics around low season, and as Wes has said, it is also a way of extracting the "coin of the realm' from the bars, easy money and the owners have no one to complain to!

Multi raids, will be happening simultaneously against the establishments they know are on the "dark side" singling them out and dealing with them.

They had found problems in Pattayaland Soi 1 also with some of the girlie bars on their last raids there, hence,the return visit.

I think regards LMTU, that matter will be well down the line now, and hopefully heading in the right direction, and I would like to think towards justice.