Today as I was getting ready to leave the house for breakfast, 2 farangs rang the gate bell. I saw that 2 others were across the street at my neighbors gate. When I opened the gate they introduced themselves and said they wanted to talk to me about what the Bible (Christian) says about saving me and the many sins in Pattaya. I could not believe it. I just glarred at them and then one said "Not your cup of tea?" Well since he asked...........
"Why would I talk about that with you. Religion has killed more people in the world because each must feel superior. I moved to Thailand to escape the radical Christians of the west. As a Gay man I am tired of people thinking I need saved."
Of course I knew there would be some reply. "God loves you. He just does not like your sinning and has sent us to help save you."
I just shook my head. And hit the remote to shut the gate.
This is the first time I have experienced this in Pattaya. I noticed that the group had 10 members, 2 in a team.
Now I don't want to give a wrong impression. Some of my best friends are Christians.
They might have been in Bangkok too. Not long ago, I was sitting at Dick's, soi twilight, and a parade of Western middle aged men/women pairs were parading down the soi. They were led by some old guy with his hand rising up to heaven and everyone was clutching a bible. They did not look at anyone and keep their eyes straight ahead, presumably avoiding the possibility of being turned into a pillar of salt.
First pass they were silent then latter returned singing something religious. The door touts did not try to get any of them to see the "show now-show now"
I saw some Mormons yesterday in the computer mall. Earnest, blond Midwesterners. Blushing cornfed chubs. Not my cup of tea, but why, it might be fun to tempt them into a life of gluttony, lust and sloth.
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Re: NGO knocking on the door
Pattaya Male wrote:
Today as I was getting ready to leave the house for breakfast, 2 farangs rang the gate bell. I saw that 2 others were across the street at my neighbors gate. When I opened the gate they introduced themselves and said they wanted to talk to me about what the Bible (Christian) says about saving me and the many sins in Pattaya. I could not believe it. I just glarred at them and then one said "Not your cup of tea?" Well since he asked...........
"Why would I talk about that with you. Religion has killed more people in the world because each must feel superior. I moved to Thailand to escape the radical Christians of the west. As a Gay man I am tired of people thinking I need saved."
Of course I knew there would be some reply. "God loves you. He just does not like your sinning and has sent us to help save you."
I just shook my head. And hit the remote to shut the gate.
This is the first time I have experienced this in Pattaya. I noticed that the group had 10 members, 2 in a team.
Now I don't want to give a wrong impression. Some of my best friends are Christians.
And I hope that after you had finished admonishing these sinning bums in the name of the Risen Lord, Jesus Christ, (Amen Lord) that you pointed to their feet and said, 'The baby Jesus doesn't like men who wear those shoes. You'll never get to heaven in that footwear!
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We are fortunate that the christian missionaries failed in their efforts to convert Thailand from Buddhism to
one of their guilt ridden sects.
There is a hot movie about a Mormon boy who realizes he is gay and gets involved with some gay men and
all of this causes heaps of trouble with his family and his fellow bicycling Mormons friends freak out. I recall
finding one of the non-Mormon gay guys really steamy but can't recall the name of the film but remember
enjoying it..
I am sure you need a work permit "to save sinners"
There is in fact a special class of visa for religious workers. I'm sure that the 50% of members of this Board who spend a considerable amount of time on their knees, may feel that they qualify
You should have asked them if they thought Jesus was gay?
Why not ... He was an unmarried man in his 30's, living in a culture where not being married at that age was almost unheard of and ... don't forget the twelve boyfriends.
Remember to mention that the appostle John repeatedly refers to himself as the one that Jesus 'specially loved'. Was that meant in the Greek sense? Who knows - you're guess is as good as mine. But what would it matter if it did?
Would it matter if the sermon on the mount was preached by the Queen of Queens rather than the King of Kings?
It is also said that John was the only one allowed to rest his head on the bosom (chest) of Jesus. Gotta wonder what his hands and lips were doing while his face was on Jesus's chest. BTW the gay mormon movie is LATER DAYS, and it is a great movie on most every level.
It's funny, I once knew an elderly gay man who was converted by two Mormon hunks. The psychology is/was obvious: it was so long since any handsome young man had displayed any interest at all in Steve, that he decided it was better to switch than fight. Then he began posting anti-gay reviews on Amazon.
Hmm...I have an entire file filled with his pre-conversion correspondence....
As for Jesus and his beloved disciple, I looked into this once, wondering if the word "love" hid the Greek agape (love of all men), philia (friendship), or eros. I was quite disappointed to find out it was agape. But who knows how many hands fiddled with the four gospels?
And who cares? It remains true that Big Jeez said not a word about "homosexuality." It was all "Saint" Paul, who was a real piece of work.
It is also said that John was the only one allowed to rest his head on the bosom (chest) of Jesus. Gotta wonder what his hands and lips were doing while his face was on Jesus's chest. BTW the gay mormon movie is LATER DAYS, and it is a great movie on most every level.
You can get this film, Latter Days, at DUCS in Sunnee Plaza. I recall it is in English with French subtitles which cannot be deleted but good French.Very romantic!
Met a group of mormans in Luang Prabang who were on holiday there from their usual job of trying to convert the pagans in Cambodia.
Was walking the back streets of Chiangmai a couple of years back and heard this god-awful singing which became louder and louder as I approached. Turns out it was a couple of hundred thai kids being taught "Onward Christian Soldiers" by some group of western christian "faithful."
Frankly, falang and their versions of whatever goofy religion serve, in my opinion, to only fuck up the indigenous culture. While I generally believe in freedom of religion (which also includes the hopeful freedom not to have my brain listen to most of that crap), it's my view that one of the best protections of local culture would be to totally ban foreigners from entering the country to attempt to convert the natives. Why would anybody want to dump all that guilt (usually) on a simple buddhist?
As a side note, mormans never have sex standing up as they wouldn't want anyone to ever accuse them of dancing.
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