[Wesley]

Let me clear up a subject that Homitiurd keeps on up bringing up when ever he is loosing any ground to me at all. That saying I think God created me, as I am. I don’t apologize for a creationist view of life, that I am not a mistake, that I am not some great experiment.

Actually, I believe in intelligent design that me, people and the universe are by far, too complex and perfect to have been of accidental design. I don’t’ write off the “Big Bang” of evolution. Only that if there was intelligent design in my life; Rather than going around the rest of my life blaming God for my life and my misfortunes or being gay, I prefer to say that if the scientist is wrong, if there was over a period of thousand of millennia; a design to the universe and if so, then I am no accident and if no accident then I refuse to believe God hates me for who and what I am. I believe that I can both be loved and accepted by Him; if he exists. The one true fact is, if I am right I win everything, if I am wrong I loose nothing. If there is a God and I love him and he loves me then good. If not then there is nothing lost. So far, I have seen no theoary with greater evidence for the big bang or evolution than I have “ intelligent design”. Although one may perceive one to be ignorant if he dispels science, which has become and taken the place of God in many circles, it makes me no less intelligent than they who find extraordinary means to prove their point that men came from a single celled organism. Although it sounds good there are many gaps and there is evidence of God that demands a verdict in this area. I can no more believe that a Coke can evolved into a coke can than I can believe that I evolved so magnificently in design. Perplexing as life is, I cannot give in to an accidental theory.

Now, having said all this I am not saying Homitiurd is wrong. Only that I believe that is as much evidence he is wrong, that he is right. Only that there are many holes in the big bang and evolution theories as there are in intelligent design. I do not take the bible as literal or as the final word on any issue especially cultural ones. Much of the New Testament was culturally written and is as out of date s as Gods view of man is today. To say I can be happy with God loving me like I am is not definitive but explanatory. If I am wrong, then I have lived a good life with integrity and honestly and love for my neighbor as myself, are not bad laws to live by, although not always to the good end for me. Often forgiveness and tolerance is more intelligent than the on going intelligent argument between Aunty and Homitiurd. They both go on with the same argument knowing neither will ever admit they are wrong, with his relationship eating at them personally, psychologically and socially. For us, it provides a few moments of entertainment but nothing more.

Not that there is not a God, only if there is, then it is smart on my part to be Gods friend not His enemy. If I am wrong then a life of integrity and man of my word being my bond. With people being able to know if I say something I mean it if I don’t then maybe I have chosen not to bring bickering and fights here in an open forum with smart ass cracks that put others down and elevates me and takes his ego away to elevate my own.

I assure you, if you meet the old fart he is nothing like you expected, that he like all of us, hurts cries and is lonely at times, as are we all.

So, my idea is that all the theories cold be true, and in the end I can accept and understand them all, I choose a life of believing in the divine with the hope that I am right and if so, then I have lost nothing by the kind lf life I lead. I happen to believe that George can have one view of Sunnee and I another while still being friends and with respect for his views , while at the same time not giving up on my own beliefs. So, I do not accept religion, religion is 95% crux of the wrongs of the world and has been for millennia. I believe in a religion less Christianity in which I can believe in God, while still accepting the cultural good of ever race color and creed and still not loose who I am in their own way of thought.

So, if I believe in intelligent design , I am not saying it is the truth and end to all ways of thought , only to me it is the most plausible and the one with less risk. if I am wrong.

All the best!

Wes

[homintern]

"Homiturds endless igrore argument of me.Intelligent design". Poor old Wesley, forever on {Ignore}. And yes, I did it by design, intelligently

[Once In Awhile]

Although Wesley claims to have me on ignore I'll venture a post nonetheless.

Homintern has made no bones about have Wesley on ignore and yet poor old delusional Wes keeps at the fat bald old cunt tenaciously. It is now obvious that Wesley is well smitten with the old reprobate and has a bad case of unrequited love.

And by the way Wesley... using your self as evidence for intelligent design does nothing to bolster your argument.

[Wesley]

Although Wesley claims to have me on ignore I'll venture a post nonetheless.

Homintern has made no bones about have Wesley on ignore and yet poor old delusional Wes keeps at the fat bald old cunt tenaciously. It is now obvious that Wesley is well smitten with the old reprobate and has a bad case of unrequited love.

And by the way Wesley... using your self as evidence for intelligent design does nothing to bolster your argument.

The old cunt brought it all up again out of the blue, I thought I would clarify what I believe, As to ignore I was over you two in a day whilst you two continue to bolster some kind of defeat based on my intelligence. Ocassioanlly "once in a while" God makes a mistake you and Hoimituird are obvious proof of it.

Wes

[homintern]

And by the way Wesley... using your self as evidence for intelligent design does nothing to bolster your argument.

[WhiteDesire]

... big words for me!!

[Soi 10 Tom]

How can so many folks that have each other on ignore continue to respond to one another's post????? These people need to get a real lives and stop living sad bitchy lives in cyberspace. Just my opinion.

[Once In Awhile]

I see Soi 10 Tom that you couldn't resist adding your own 2 cents. Et tu brute?

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

I sort of agree with you Wesley but if you had had the misfortune to have dinner with Homintern you would know that whoever the Intelligent Designer is , he/she was having a seriously off day when they designed Homintern. Perhaps the plans got mixed up with Big Foot's.

[Once In Awhile]

"I can no more believe that a Coke can evolved into a coke can than I can believe that I evolved so magnificently in design"

Being so magnificently designed one would think that you would know that inanimate objects are incapable of evolution.

Quite frankly Wesley I couldn't give a flying fuck what you believe or don't believe. But when you post such poorly written, intellectually weak drivel you can hardly be surprised that you get ridiculed for it.

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

Is a "flying fuck" the thing you have when you join the Mile High Club ?

[homintern]

How can so many folks that have each other on ignore continue to respond to one another's post????? These people need to get a real lives and stop living sad bitchy lives in cyberspace. Just my opinion.

Is that the same sort of informed opinion that refuses to agree to call Thai bar boys "prostitutes" on the grounds that the person doing so must have had an unhappy childhood?

Perhaps the plans got mixed up with Big Foot's.

According to the mem'sahibs, I'm intimately connected to the Big Bang - the name for our Friday night sex party

[kenc]

Great.
Just what this World needs - another Numbskull who knows nothing about biology, biochemistry, geology, astrophysics, quantum mechanics or even if Georgia is in the Balkans, Baltics or Sunee Plaza.

So he takes comfort in the cozy little mythology that he was baked special in God's Big Oven which precludes his having to crack open a science book and maybe have to learn something hard like calculus.

Well what the hell, that's ok Wes. I long as you're happy.




(I guess it would be a waste of time to try to discuss if the LHC in Geneva will find the Higgs Boson....sigh...)

[Chao Na]

If some omnipotent and perfect God designed us, you'd think he'd have done a better job. I mean, what's with dandruff, body odor, halitosis, and 'roids? Not to mention cancer, AIDS, diabetes...

[Wesley]

Cha Na, I never said this is the final argument, I am just saying that it is as possible as some of the other theories and that every day more and the more information which comes in that proves previous theories, thought to be law, then find out the law was wrong, or flawed. You can say that our understanding is at best limited ; No matter what Kenc Says about all the education he has, he to is limited to a finite amount of knowledge. In the end I would count none of them out. The on going thought as to why people suffer is endless; neither we, nor animals are meant to live forever or in utter utopia. Often times it may be the hard lessons in life that teach me the most about life. I wish this was not life as it is, but we all will die, get old and suffer on the way out. It is not so much that we have lived but, how we lived that is important. In the grand total if you are happy who am I to say you are not. I would think we all live at different levels of intellectual and not so intellectual bliss. None of us having all the answers and none of us sure we are right, with the exception of Homitiurd.