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American Idol Homophobia

PostAuthor: zinzone » Wed 20 May, 2009 9:13 pm

I been viewing the US TV show , 'American Idol'. The final has just finished between a gay and a straight as to who is to be crowned the winner.
Results are determined by viewer phone votes, etc.
The gay was by a very wide margin vastly superior in every respect to the straight, yet the latter has been crowned the winner.
A total nonsence result.
But once again revealing blatant and obvious homophoobia.

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Re: American Idol Homophobia

PostAuthor: Beach Bunny » Thu 21 May, 2009 3:15 am

Hmmm...is that why Clay Aiken managed to win?
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Re: American Idol Homophobia

PostAuthor: vnman » Thu 21 May, 2009 5:21 am

zinzone wrote:I been viewing the US TV show , 'American Idol'. The final has just finished between a gay and a straight as to who is to be crowned the winner.
Results are determined by viewer phone votes, etc.
The gay was by a very wide margin vastly superior in every respect to the straight, yet the latter has been crowned the winner.
A total nonsence result.
But once again revealing blatant and obvious homophoobia.


I don't know about homophobia but the gay guy was definitely better than his opponent. Idols is not only about singing... it's more important to be likable
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Re: American Idol Homophobia

PostAuthor: zinzone » Thu 21 May, 2009 2:28 pm

Go to any proper news report, blog or comment and below are samples of the kind of things being said:


"Kris got the homophobe vote, no doubt about it. Like palantir said, Adam Lambert should be relieved. How positively dorky to be crowned "American Idol" anyway. I enjoy this show for some strange reason, but it becomes a joke when the obviously superior singer loses because of a bunch of freaking homophobes (another word for hypocrite in my book - especially those from the South)."




"adam lambert is on a completely different level - he's too good for american idol. this just goes to show what happens when you let middle america vote...these are the same people who voted for bush. twice. "



"Plain and simple - this was my first year watching American Idol - and I thought it was great. I've been a fan of Adam's since the beginning, he was by far in a league of his own. Whether he appeals to you or not, nobody was even close in this competition in terms of talent, confidence and performance ability. To lose to Kris was pathetic, even Kris himself was shocked and knew he didn't deserve to win. So with that being said, it was my first year of watching this show, and will most certainly be my last. "

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Re: American Idol Homophobia

PostAuthor: Beach Bunny » Thu 21 May, 2009 3:36 pm

Clay Aiken was even more flaming than Adam.

America may have gotten it wrong -- I have no idea because I do not watch the show -- but I do not scream "homophobia" and go on a FOQ rant if the fag doesn't always win.
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Re: American Idol Homophobia

PostAuthor: mlomker » Thu 21 May, 2009 5:07 pm

I liked Adam but he was a little screechy at times. Some of his performances, such as his first one on Tuesday night are absolutely incredible.

It's frequently the case that the winner sells about 2 copies of their album and the runner-up becomes a star.
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Re: American Idol Homophobia

PostAuthor: Narakmak » Thu 21 May, 2009 5:46 pm

Clay Aiken did not win. He was runnerup.

On May 21, 2003, Aiken came in a close second to Ruben Studdard
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The Washington Post is theorizing the current winner mainly won because of the "family Christian" vote. The winner was an out believer while the loser was not publicly declaring any religious life. You could see that as code for gay vs straight, probably a factor for sure.
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Re: American Idol Homophobia

PostAuthor: Beach Bunny » Thu 21 May, 2009 7:37 pm

Narakmak wrote:Clay Aiken did not win. He was runnerup.

On May 21, 2003, Aiken came in a close second to Ruben Studdard


Ruben who?

LOL. There you go...winning ain't all it's cracked up to be.
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Re: American Idol Homophobia

PostAuthor: Gone Fishing » Fri 22 May, 2009 12:42 pm

mlomker wrote:It's frequently the case that the winner sells about 2 copies of their album and the runner-up becomes a star.


As shown by Chris Daughtry (3rd place), whose latest album has sold over 5 million, unlike the winner whose name I can't remember. Maybe I am slow, as I had not realised Adam was gay (did not stop him doing a great duet); I enjoyed all his songs, and he reminded me a bit of Bryan Ferry.

I had not realised either that American Idol was so important (100 million votes!!!) or that "family Christian" Americans would have taken it so seriously. I do recall, though, one pick-up driver shouting "frigging homos" as he passed three of us sitting at the side of the road in the "Bible Belt", presumably because we were wearing cycling clothes (Spandex, Lycra, etc), and another one firing a shotgun out of the window towards us under similar circumstances; on the other hand, far more invited us into their homes to spend the night with them and their families as we passed through (preferably after doing our laundry, as we were long distance cycle touring, so rather sweaty!), with the utmost trust and generosity for total strangers.
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Re: American Idol Homophobia

PostAuthor: Beach Bunny » Fri 22 May, 2009 12:48 pm

Adam has never said he was gay. Though some people assume it, based on mannerisms I guess? I thought we were trying to get away from pegging people based on stereotypes.
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Re: American Idol Homophobia

PostAuthor: Gone Fishing » Fri 22 May, 2009 1:02 pm

Beach Bunny wrote:America may have gotten it wrong -- I have no idea because I do not watch the show

.....Adam has never said he was gay.


Then how do you know???
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Re: American Idol Homophobia

PostAuthor: mlomker » Fri 22 May, 2009 5:58 pm

Beach Bunny wrote:Though some people assume it, based on mannerisms I guess?


He might just be super friendly, but pics like this are all over the `net.

Adam Lambert kiss
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Re: American Idol Homophobia

PostAuthor: thrillbill » Fri 22 May, 2009 7:17 pm

Before the final American Idol show that would determine the winner, Fox News (sorry, it is the only American TV news channel I get on my cable in Thailand) brought up the question if the "Christian vote" would make a difference; for Kris Adams came from a small town in Arkansa, attended church, represented family values...blah blah blah. When the Fox commentators were bringing up whether the "Christian vote" would make a difference, they suggested that "flamboyant" Adam Lambert was more popular and was predicted to win.

THEN when Kris Adams won, nothing was mentioned, NOTHING... was mentioned on FOX news shows about the Christian vote making a difference. What I heard from Fox was that people like voting for an "underdog".
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Fox news made a big deal when Miss California was asked about gay marriage in the beauty pageant and tried to blame that she didn't win the Miss America title because of her answer . (Miss CA said that she didn't support gay marriage.) What about the other finalists that didn't win? Fox was focussing how Miss CA's good value system represented many Americans.. Then a week later, it came out that Miss California had posed in some "racey" photo shots when she was in highschool ---promotion photos for modeling. Was she criticised for that by Fox News ? (Would the church call this good family values?) Fox News overlooked it and said that dirt was being dug up on her by the gay community.

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Re: American Idol Homophobia

PostAuthor: Beach Bunny » Fri 22 May, 2009 9:00 pm

Gone Fishing wrote:
Beach Bunny wrote:America may have gotten it wrong -- I have no idea because I do not watch the show

.....Adam has never said he was gay.


Then how do you know???


I do watch the news, you know. You don't have to watch a second of American Idol to have an idea what is going on.
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Re: American Idol Homophobia

PostAuthor: Gone Fishing » Sat 23 May, 2009 10:49 am

Beach Bunny wrote:I do watch the news, you know.


The news, presumably, being FOX news - that explains a great deal!!

(No offence, but I am a little worried that my agreeing with you recently, and even defending you in your discussion with Wes - not that you are not able to do so perfectly adequately yourself - may be misinterpreted)
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