Where Pattaya Headed !

[Pattaya Male]

Today Friday 9May at 12:20pm I could not connect to either web cam. First time I have tried.

[Gone Fishing]

I am not going to comment of Gone Fishing posts. The man is dillusional. The very fact that he is simply lying and when confronted with the facts and basically back to the wall never recognize that, make it impossible to have any intelligent discussion with him. ... Gone Fishing,If you are not crazy,do not you understand what kind of image you project by your totally idiotic posts, by your absolute lack of ability to logical reasoning?

An interesting post, if somewhat rambling.

Just one concrete exaple of lie: the members of the family did participate in parliamentary elections and lost. It was cited in my previous posts and I can bring the quote if necessary.

As you appear to be happy to comment on my posts, please would you give the reference showing specifically which member of the Khunpluem family stood in the January parliamentary elections in Chonburi. Sonthaya, the eldest son, was still banned from politics as a former TRT executive member, and Witthaya and Itthipol did not stand; Witthaya had stated he would contest the Chonburi PAO, which he won, and Itthipol the Pattaya mayoral elections, which he won. Would you mind giving their name so that it is clear who, exactly, you are talking about?

In his recent post he claimed that average expense of visitors to Pattaya per visit was 1000 baht. What an utterly nonsense!

I thought I had made it very clear in my post on tourist spending in Pattaya that these were not my figures, but those given by the TAT:

According to figures from the TAT, tourists in Pattaya over the last two years have spent, on average, less than 1,000 baht per person during their holiday - are these the high spending, up-market tourists that were being discussed in posts on Pattaya's future?

Chaiwat Charoensuk, director of the Tourism Authority of Thailand Central Region 3 Office said that 2007 was a good year for Pattaya City and Chonburi Province in terms of tourist arrivals, with the figure standing at 6.62 million. Pattaya City itself received an income of 5.9 billion baht from tourism.
This represents an increase of about 8 percent over the previous year, 2006, when there were 5.5 million tourists and a tourism income of about 5.3 billion baht. (Pattaya Mail)

Lies, damn lies and statistics ....

Just in case there was any remaining room for doubt I subsequently clarified it still further:

It is the amount that the TAT estimate tourists spend in Pattaya every year (around 6,000,000,000 baht); the number of tourists (around 6,000,000) includes all "tourists" including, for example those coming down by the pick-up load for the songkran "festivities".
My main reason for posting this was to show quite how useless statistics are, even (or especially!) when given by a government department

Obviously I did not make it clear enough for you, as in spite of everything I wrote you have somehow understood that these were my figures. I regret that I really do not know how I could have made it much easier to understand - would sign language help, or maybe a few pictures?

To the best of my knowledge Ocean towers are doing just fine.

Doubtless, but on what is your knowledge based? The building permit you refer to was formally issued on 1 October last year; prior to that excavation was permitted on the site; the first deposits were taken two years ago. Had I made one of those deposits I would want considerably more visible progress, after more than seven months, than I (and others) have seen at the site, particularly in view of the contractor's lack of experience in this type of construction (and if you disagree with that, maybe you would tell us of any similar projects they have made) . Maybe you would tell us what, exactly, is "fine" about it and on what your extensive knowledge is based.

It is utterly abnormal to post with your frequency.

429 posts - is that excessive, in 4 years?

"dillusional ... simply lying ... back to the wall ... utter nonsense ... crazy ... totally idiotic ... absolute lack of ability to
logical reasoning" - Strong stuff. Back it up with anything which can be verified.

[Gone Fishing]

Also there is a regional airport Utapo close by which could easily handle charters and regular airline traffic directly into Thailand from China, Hong Kong, India, Japan, Russia, etc. I also noticed that there is a lot of road construction in that area although not as much building. Isn't there also a marina in that area which could could handle the $1,000,000 yachts?

Pattaya Male,

you are correct. Au Tapao airport actually already handles quite a number of charter flights from Eastern Europe, primarily Russia, and the tour groups are accommodated at Ambassador City. The Marina is Ocean Marina, virtually next door to the Ambassador. The road construction between Soi Chaiyapreuk 2 and Soi Phoenix/Ban Amhur is considerable and, as you have noticed, is not matched by a similar amount of building construction; the only aspect of this that surprises me is that land prices in the area are still low, not only in comparison to Pattaya, but also in comparison to Siam Country Club / Mabprachan reservoir - roadside land is around 1 million baht a rai, and even as low as 400,000 baht in some cases direct from the original owners.

Ikarus,

I'm waiting. The reference you previously gave does not support your claim in any way. If you are unable to find any other, or any other "lie" I have made, then either admit it or crawl back under whatever rock you came from.

[homintern]

An interesting post, if somewhat rambling.

Pot, kettle, black?

[Gone Fishing]

Ikarus,

I am still waiting for your promised reference and names. In the meantime maybe you would like to peruse the Bangkok Post of 29 April 08, which contained an article titled Khunpluems still top in Chon Buri politics; alternatively you could look at an article in the Pattaya Mail of 3 - 9 August last year, where the Khunpluems stated their intention to stand in local, not parliamentary, politics - hardly authoritative, I know, but a reasonable indicator nevertheless.

I won't be holding my breath (sadly for some) ...