How not to behave in a Thai Bar...

[Gone Fishing]

Regardless, a drunk is a drunk, and a sucker punch/kick is a sucker punch/kick. The response was far in excess of the transgression. The kick or punch could have killed the farang. Now, if it was a farang doing same same to a Thai, what do you think the outcome? Ask the police.

I don't know if I would call it a "sucker punch" - he had just asked "who wants it"!!

I believe that people just become more of what they really are when they are intoxicated. I just get giggly and talk too much for my own good (you really *shouldn't* spill your guts to most people).

Aah ..... now I understand why you post as you do.

[scottish-guy]

As for the incident itself: just a normal night-out in Glasgow

And an Englishman in a Glaswegian bar drunk and mouthing off to a Scot would get a kiss on both cheeks and a free round of drinks, right?

I think you have missed the point entirely haven't you? Or perhaps you're one of those humourless Canadians I mentioned earlier - talking of which.............

" ... As for the incident itself: just a normal night-out in Glasgow ... "

Exactly.

Perhaps Smiles can reveal how many nights out in Glasgow he has experienced - I mean surely he's not just talking out his arse? Heaven forbid!

[scottish-guy]

" ... most of the criminals who were deported had committed crimes such as perjury, fraud, forgery, sacrilege, highway robbery, theft, burglary ... "

Buggery too. A lot of buggery.

.......... which continued on the boat no doubt.

And all those tales of the ship's crew drinking piss - surely that's not too far removed from what people today call golden showers?

The late George Melly, summed up the nautical life in 4 words "Rum, Bum, and Concertina"

Hello Sailor!

[francois]

I don't know if I would call it a "sucker punch" - he had just asked "who wants it"!!
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Mon Dieu! I thought a "sucker punch" was some sorte of alcoholic beverage with a kick to it! Everytime I ask for one I awake with a terrible headache.

[Gone Fishing]

Read one book about Thailand and you'd understand how completely inappropriate even losing your temper, much less being physically aggressive is. If this had occurred in a US bar I wouldn't feel sorry for him but the fact that he got that aggressive in Thailand (with a Thai), is what totally pushes it over the edge for me.

I wonder if you read the book which tells you that Thailand has the highest incidence of shootings and gun-related crime in the world (except, possibly, Columbia)?

Or the one about Thailand consistently having one of the top 10 total prison populations, despite its relatively small population, with most of the offenders being imprisoned for violent, drug-related or gun-related offences (or a combination of them)?

[Nalong]

Let's not talk about the number of Thai business and political disputes that are resolved via drive-by assassination attempts.

[Beachlover]

Read one book about Thailand and you'd understand how completely inappropriate even losing your temper, much less being physically aggressive is. If this had occurred in a US bar I wouldn't feel sorry for him but the fact that he got that aggressive in Thailand (with a Thai), is what totally pushes it over the edge for me.

I wonder if you read the book which tells you that Thailand has the highest incidence of shootings and gun-related crime in the world (except, possibly, Columbia)?

Or the one about Thailand consistently having one of the top 10 total prison populations, despite its relatively small population, with most of the offenders being imprisoned for violent, drug-related or gun-related offences (or a combination of them)?

Thais are good at keeping their cool and smiling. But when they snap, they can really lose their temper and be quite illogical in their actions. It's kind of a double edged sword.

Thailand also has the highest number of penis amputations (angry wives) lol. That's a disturbing reason to be gay in Thailand.

[i_am_me]

I can't agree with many posters in this thread. All the guy did was hit the bar. He never struck anybody. If you agree with Dubya about striking first then this is suitable. He was trying to buy a drink when he was clearly over the limit. The Thais were about to provide it if he had just shut up.

Clearly he had enough and didn't need anymore. so they serve him until he is a mess and then kick his face in afterwards. I am not condoning his behavior for one moment but the bar staff appears to be scum to me. What bar in the west serves their customers and then after they are drink beats them until they pass out and moves them bfore the cops come?

[Beach Bunny]

Let's not talk about the number of Thai business and political disputes that are resolved via drive-by assassination attempts.

Let's do. Do you have a statistic?

[Nalong]

Let's not talk about the number of Thai business and political disputes that are resolved via drive-by assassination attempts.

Let's do. Do you have a statistic?

Sadly you seem to have escaped. Maybe that's a reflection of your actual vs. your claimed success.

[Beach Bunny]

As thought: you have no statistics, do you?

[Nalong]

It's a topic widely discussed. I believe I first read about it in Culture Shock: Thailand. A simple Google search http://tinyurl.com/mpvzuo will turn up over 20 pages of results for assassinations and attempted assassinations over the years, as well as studies such as this one http://www.article2.org/mainfile.php/0402/188/

Maybe those rose-colored spectacles you affect should be taken off?

[Beach Bunny]

Ah, you're talking about vice and semi-legal businesses. Mafiosi knocking off mafiosi. It is not so common in legitimate business.

[Nalong]

Ah, you're talking about vice and semi-legal businesses. Mafiosi knocking off mafiosi. It is not so common in legitimate business.

You claim to have been involved in a legitimate business? But you're such a total asshole!

[kenc]

Kenc, she told them "enough, enough .....no more kicking .....take him out"
A similar reaction to most bar owners anywhere, I would guess, particularly after his threat (the opening words on the recording) "I'll fucking have this place turned over tomorrow" and his open invitation "who wants it?". Would a Thai have got better treatment, under similar circumstances, in Britain, Australia, or anywhere else? Somehow I doubt it, nor would they deserve it....

Well thanks Mr Fish. I was wondering what the Thai attitude was to all the mayhem. Notice that the other Thais don't get involved until Mr. Jerk starts getting physical and banging his fist on the bar.
Like I said, I've been on the recieving end of such tirades and its all you can do to keep from blowing the jerk's head off (if you had a gun). You know you can't react but your blood just boils.

But yeah, the guy was sucker punched, from the side by a kid who couldn't keep his cool.
So give the kid a medal!

(edits: having trouble with the damn quotes function...ughh....)