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 Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 5:30 am
Guys,
You mentioned a man who was cleared by the supreme court after Fair trials abroad took his case up in 2001.
Mine started in October 2000
FTA are still helping me.
I am still waiting for them to assist me, [ The thai courts] even though the Police have apologized!
Andrew-drummond.com
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 Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 8:50 am
Keep us posted ..
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 Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 9:07 am
Lunchtime O'Booze wrote:Naturally I've heard every bit of scurrillous gossip about you kquill but usually forget most of it after a long lunch.....
Keep us posted if you want.....
I've pretty much forgotten about it all too... until Mr. Kevin brings it all up again!
And I'll bet a lot of the new posters haven't a CLUE what anyone's talking about.
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 Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 9:14 am
kenc wrote:Lunchtime O'Booze wrote:Naturally I've heard every bit of scurrillous gossip about you kquill but usually forget most of it after a long lunch.....
Keep us posted if you want.....
I've pretty much forgotten about it all too... until Mr. Kevin brings it all up again! And I'll bet a lot of the new posters haven't a CLUE what anyone's talking about.
you are right I have no idea what is going on kenc,
Wesley
All the Best!
Wes
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 Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 9:35 am
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 Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 10:27 am
Lunchtime O'Booze wrote:Naturally I've heard every bit of scurrillous gossip about you kquill but usually forget most of it after a long lunch.
And of course I've heard numerous tales of Mr Drummund who sounds very interesting. But is there anything on his site regarding you..? I couldn't find it if there was.
Keep us posted if you want..I do have a great interest in the legal matters..far more innocent people fall foul of the law than the average person ever imagines.
Lunchtime,
Read the fighting for justice article and then you will catch the drift! [ There's photos as well!] and Embassy letters, just in case anyone thinks I am telling porkie pies!
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 Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 10:39 am
Kevin, I have admired your restraint in not saying more about the personal crisis you faced which ended up with prison time in Thailand. I'm sure it is a big eye-opener for those who arrived on the gay Pattaya scene after it all quieted down to read about it now.
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 Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 12:14 pm
kquill
You should write a book about it - and would make a great movie.
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 Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 12:26 pm
bkk gwm wrote:Kevin, I have admired your restraint in not saying more about the personal crisis you faced which ended up with prison time in Thailand. I'm sure it is a big eye-opener for those who arrived on the gay Pattaya scene after it all quieted down to read about it now.
Kevin,
More power to you....
and peace of mind finally will be yours when this tragic life's
episode and trial is settled by the courts.
I am proud of your fine efforts to help the needy and poor in Thailand...
You deserve justice and justice will be yours!
Wowpow has posted a photo on gaytingtong forum which I shall share with you here...
Keep Fighting Kevin - Justice will be Yours!
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http://www.gaytingtong.com/topic1653-135.html
Thanks again Kevin - for sharing your multitude experiences, observations
and information on this forum...it is much appreciated and welcomed!
TravelerJim
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 Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 12:55 pm
Stunned is he only word I an come up with , not sure I will ever go to [business name deleted under threat of legal action from involved party-Elephantspike] again though
All the Best!
Wes
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 Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 1:05 pm
Guys,
Don't know who did wrong by me, but I did not make a mistake in that department!
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 Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 3:46 pm
kquill wrote:Guys,
You mentioned a man who was cleared by the supreme court after Fair trials abroad took his case up in 2001.
Mine started in October 2000
FTA are still helping me.
I am still waiting for them to assist me, [ The thai courts] even though the Police have apologized!
Andrew-drummond.com
You do the right thing Kevin! But I have the feeling that we fighting against wind mills. The question for me is: "Can we find Justice in Thailand?"
Let's say some one win a criminal case in the Federal Thai court. The Prosecution lost the case and face! So they went to appeal and lost. And last not least the appeal again and went to the supreme court. And they lost again.
I honestly ask my selves, has the Prosecution the right to appeal? Thailand today 10 Years trial time. For the apology we can't buy anything. 10 years life time and may sleepless nights.
What a Thai citizen do in this case, with no money? Accept the charges and sit in Jail? Can he find justice? NO WAY!!!
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 Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 4:35 pm
Wow, well my hat goes off to you Kevin! There's certainly a book in there alright, even if the final chapters may still have yet to be written. What amazes me about Thailand when you read stories like these don't they understand that in the eyes of the West, such appalling 'justice' and 'policing' makes them a laughing stock of the whole world? Don't they get that? Stories like that makes Thailand lose face on the world stage. You think that would seep through, wouldn't you???!!!
The other thing I have never understood when it comes to the criminal mind is how do these people (con-artists, fraudsters, corrupt police etc) find each other, and what is the glue that holds them together so tightly and for so long? Surely there must be more to that than just money?
JESUS LOVES YOU, yes, even you nancies
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 Posted: Wed 12 Sep, 2007 5:41 pm
Aunty wrote:Wow, well my hat goes off to you Kevin! There's certainly a book in there alright, even if the final chapters may still have yet to be written. What amazes me about Thailand when you read stories like these don't they understand that in the eyes of the West, such appalling 'justice' and 'policing' makes them a laughing stock of the whole world? Don't they get that? Stories like that makes Thailand lose face on the world stage. You think that would seep through, wouldn't you???!!!
The other thing I have never understood when it comes to the criminal mind is how do these people (con-artists, fraudsters, corrupt police etc) find each other, and what is the glue that holds them together so tightly and for so long? Surely there must be more to that than just money?
Aunty,
I wish I knew!
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