Is a foreigner always wrong in Thai  criminal court? If he wins the case in Federal court, because the Judges acquitted him, the prosecution can appeal and if they lost again, they can appeal to the Supreme Court again. Have that something to loose face or what? Cases with open end, because Appeal and Supreme Court Judgments are paper decisions, without hearing in Court room. Any Comments?

krazydragon wrote:

Is a foreigner always wrong .................
. Any Comments?

We all know where you are trying to go with this one.

Comments without mentioning specific cases please.

krazydragon wrote:

Is a foreigner always wrong in Thai  criminal court? If he wins the case in Federal court, because the Judges acquitted him, the prosecution can appeal and if they lost again, they can appeal to the Supreme Court again. Have that something to loose face or what? Cases with open end, because Appeal and Supreme Court Judgments are paper decisions, without hearing in Court room. Any Comments?

The process is the same whether you are a Thai or a foreigner.

Learn the rules

Farang are always wrong, and will never win at anything
They spend money and are tolerated but not really liked.
They should Come to Thailand spend their money as fast as they can and get out.
The authorities  are watching  and waiting for an opportunity to bust a farang and get his money more quickly.
If we don't have proof we will set you up



Last edited by allieb on Sun 11 May, 2008 10:23 am; edited 1 time in total

Singapore Sexpat wrote:

krazydragon wrote:

Is a foreigner always wrong in Thai  criminal court? If he wins the case in Federal court, because the Judges acquitted him, the prosecution can appeal and if they lost again, they can appeal to the Supreme Court again. Have that something to loose face or what? Cases with open end, because Appeal and Supreme Court Judgments are paper decisions, without hearing in Court room. Any Comments?

The process is the same whether you are a Thai or a foreigner.

But not the outcome

allieb wrote:

Singapore Sexpat wrote:

krazydragon wrote:

Is a foreigner always wrong in Thai  criminal court? If he wins the case in Federal court, because the Judges acquitted him, the prosecution can appeal and if they lost again, they can appeal to the Supreme Court again. Have that something to loose face or what? Cases with open end, because Appeal and Supreme Court Judgments are paper decisions, without hearing in Court room. Any Comments?

The process is the same whether you are a Thai or a foreigner.

But not the outcome

Do you actually have some statistics to back up this statement?  Or are you shooting off your mouth based on anecdotal information of a couple cases?

Singapore Sexpat wrote:

allieb wrote:

Singapore Sexpat wrote:

krazydragon wrote:

Is a foreigner always wrong in Thai  criminal court? If he wins the case in Federal court, because the Judges acquitted him, the prosecution can appeal and if they lost again, they can appeal to the Supreme Court again. Have that something to loose face or what? Cases with open end, because Appeal and Supreme Court Judgments are paper decisions, without hearing in Court room. Any Comments?

The process is the same whether you are a Thai or a foreigner.

But not the outcome

Do you actually have some statistics to back up this statement?  Or are you shooting off your mouth based on anecdotal information of a couple cases?

 With statements like that now I know who you are welcome back

My name's not "nack".

So, I ask you again.  On what is your statement based?

Singapore Sexpat wrote:

My name's not "nack".

So, I ask you again.  On what is your statement based?

Corrected to back.  My statement is base on at least a dozen or so civil actions in Thai courts involving farang business friends of mine who should have won but didn't as well as 3 Thai friends of mine who shouldn't have won but did. Not to mention many well publicized astonishing cases in the media over the last few years. We won't even mention PM Toxic



Last edited by allieb on Sun 11 May, 2008 10:40 am; edited 1 time in total

First of all, allieb, the question was about CRIMINAL cases.  You're mixing civil cases in.  Perhaps you don't know the difference?

Second, your friends "should have won"?  Well, aren't we judge, jury, and executioner!  Your friends SHOULD have won!  Of course they should have!  Except that the judge -- the one who actually heard evidence from both sides (which you didn't) didn't think so.

And your Thai friends should have won, too?  Well, the hypothesis presented here was that farangs get the short end of the stick in criminal trials.  Now you're saying that Thais do, too?  In other words, every one who's a friend of allieb gets the short end of the stick?  I'm sure glad I'm not your friend.

Singapore Sexpat wrote:

First of all, allieb, the question was about CRIMINAL cases.  You're mixing civil cases in.  Perhaps you don't know the difference?

Second, your friends "should have won"?  Well, aren't we judge, jury, and executioner!  Your friends SHOULD have won!  Of course they should have!  Except that the judge -- the one who actually heard evidence from both sides (which you didn't) didn't think so.

And your Thai friends should have won, too?  Well, the hypothesis presented here was that farangs get the short end of the stick in criminal trials.  Now you're saying that Thais do, too?  In other words, every one who's a friend of allieb gets the short end of the stick?  I'm sure glad I'm not your friend.

The feeling is mutual and I said my Thai friends Shouldn't have won but they did the cases were  against farang. Criminal or civil the  outcome is always in favor of Thais you're are defending a corrupt legal system



Last edited by allieb on Sun 11 May, 2008 10:51 am; edited 1 time in total

allieb wrote:

Singapore Sexpat wrote:

My name's not "nack".

So, I ask you again.  On what is your statement based?

Corrected to back.  My statement is base on at least a dozen or so civil actions in Thai courts involving farang business friends of mine who should have won but didn't as well as 3 Thai friends of mine who shouldn't have won but did. Not to mention many well publicized astonishing cases in the media over the last few years. We won't even mention PM Toxic

Don't dig yourself in deeper with Boygeenus, that's exactly what he wants. Come on, I live here and know at most 10 farang business owners and not one have been involved in any civil action with Thais. Now, to know a dozen (12) that have had litigation just does not ring true for a visitor.

Your really better off just ignoring boyG/SS/name of the month club.

Always?  So, if I can show you a single case where a foreigner won a case against a Thai, you will admit that you were wrong?

The Anglo-American "presumption of innocence" concept doesn't exist in Thai courts - whether the accused is Thai or non-Thai

Singapore Sexpat wrote:

krazydragon wrote:

Is a foreigner always wrong in Thai  criminal court? If he wins the case in Federal court, because the Judges acquitted him, the prosecution can appeal and if they lost again, they can appeal to the Supreme Court again. Have that something to loose face or what? Cases with open end, because Appeal and Supreme Court Judgments are paper decisions, without hearing in Court room. Any Comments?

The process is the same whether you are a Thai or a foreigner.

FYI:  The 26 year old Thaiman who killed a one-legged Finn by stabbing him up to 50 times last month in Jomtien has been in and out of jails many times over the years for drugs and other offences.  If he has been a foreigner he would have gone to Jail and stayed there the first time!