[555]

Just got back from the Bacon exhibition at Tate Britain. Gobsmacked. Described by some as the most important British artist since Turner.

[Chao Na]

Bacon's longtime companion died in Pattaya over five years ago, your fagulous trip to the museum somehow becomes a topic related to Thailand?

[Henry Cate]

Just got back from the Bacon exhibition at Tate Britain. Gobsmacked. Described by some as the most important British artist since Turner.

Well, that sounds just like something you would do, 555.

[dave_syd]

Just got back from the Bacon exhibition

an exhibition of pork products?

[Sen Yai]

Funny, I know I posted this link www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bacon-a-mystery-in-the-east-746033.html in this thread ealier today, to demonstrate a connection between Francis Bacon and Thailand.

Why has it been deleted without explanation?

[555]

Funny, I know I posted this link www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bacon-a-mystery-in-the-east-746033.html in this thread ealier today, to demonstrate a connection between Francis Bacon and Thailand.

Why has it been deleted without explanation?

Yes. I know you did Sen Yai. Over 70% of the thread seems to have been nicked by the movers.

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

I shared many a bar-stool with Francis Bacon on long afternoons with his lover at the Colony Club in Soho which I am sad to hear has just been declared bankrupt.

What a funny old thing he was , never really caring for money even whilst his paintings were selling for millions while he was alive,

Incidently-he met that boyfriend when the young man had broken into Bacon's little house and was ransacking it...Francis came home and suggested he go to bed with him and he pay him instead of pursuing a career as a burglar which was a much better deal. Was it ever..the boy became a man and was left about 35 million pounds upon Bacon's death, bought every single member of his East End family a house and the most magnificent penthouse in Pattaya where he sadly died about 3 years ago.

important trivia : it's said that many of Bacons works were not declared in his estate and dozens went missing and it was assumed hidden by the boyfriend. The boyfriend had a Thai boyfriend who he apparently gave 6 Bacon paintings for safekeeping but forgot about them. That lad has no idea of their value..somewhere in the north of Thailand in a little village there is a traditional Thai hut with a family living as they have for years, and upon their walls are 6 bizarre paintings executed by Francis Bacon and worth probably about 30 milllion pounds !!! Start your search now.

[homintern]

..somewhere in the north of Thailand in a little village there is a traditional Thai hut with a family living as they have for years, and upon their walls are 6 bizarre paintings executed by Francis Bacon and worth probably about 30 milllion pounds !!! Start your search now.

I'm assembling the mem'sahibs forthwith

[Khor tose]

Lunchtime you have had, and probably still enjoy, a fantastic life. I love art, however Francis is not that high on my list, but I do know his story. May I be so bold as to offer one slight correction? The boy who broke into his house is the subject of some of his paintings. His name was George Dyer. He died of an overdose of drugs sometime in the 70s. It was after dyer's death that he met Edward.

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

I defer to you Khor tose as you may be telling it as it is.

Unfortunately most of my time in London ( 30 years ) was spent in afternoon drinking bars after that mad pub closing that happended from 2pm onwards , which, while completely uncivilised, meant that one could wander from one small private club in the West End to another..they were of course complete scams and as long as one pretended to be a member , one could drink all afternoon.

Thus you could prop up the bar at the Colony with Francis Bacon or the famous Jeffrey Bernard (who made me look sober) and who became the subject of the most wonderful play where he was portrayed by Dennis Waterman (of "Minder' fame) who I had a fist fight in Brisbane once ... of all places, when we attended a party to celebrate the arrival of the copies of the Crown Jewels ... whereupon a Prince Charles look-a-like alighted from a British Airways aeroplane. minus his large ears (which he had forgotten ). I made some derogatory remark ( afterall I am Irish) and Denis immediately thumped me-being an East Ender who are the staunchest of Royal supporters.

We rolled around on the ground-were seperated and then immediately rushed to the bar for more drinks and became firm friends.

But I digress..I think your complaint was that I mixed up said boyfriends and you are probably more correct than I.

I must confess..the Colony was always my first port of a call to chat with the fabulously talented..and then onwards to Jonathons or the Toucan where one would always meet a young wide-eyed lad who had just arrived in town and was so naive they could be dazzled by an old soak like mois.

And I always scored although one time the most handsome boy from Sheffield stole my Gucci pumps and left in their place a pair of very shoddy boots. When I related this tale to those at the Colony it became a tale of great mirth, much to my chagrin.

But-my tale of the missing Bacons is true and I could name a very prominent Pattayan citizen who launched a quest to find them but then freaked out as he perceived there could enormous legal ramifications regarding provinence. So the hidden treasure is still there to be found.

More importantly..why the fuck has Homintern been voted a person of note when he is completely disreputable and owes me so many lunches. ??

Why is life so unfair ?

[555]

I shared many a bar-stool with Francis Bacon on long afternoons with his lover at the Colony Club in Soho which I am sad to hear has just been declared bankrupt.

That club is mentioned in the exhibition audio materials. I remember the Rockingham, A&B and Festival were after hours gay very private in the early '70s. Would they have been similar?

What a funny old thing he was , never really caring for money even whilst his paintings were selling for millions while he was alive,

Incidently-he met that boyfriend when the young man had broken into Bacon's little house and was ransacking it...Francis came home and suggested he go to bed with him and he pay him instead of pursuing a career as a burglar which was a much better deal. Was it ever..the boy became a man and was left about 35 million pounds upon Bacon's death, bought every single member of his East End family a house and the most magnificent penthouse in Pattaya where he sadly died about 3 years ago.

Your detail seems slightly at odds with the Tate's version. According to them, it was Dyer who was the housebreaker, and many of the images in the exhibition depict him. According to the Independent it was Edwards who died in Pattaya which I'd seen in a BBC documentary, but I don't think any of the images in the exhibition are of him - but it's not easy to be certain.

important trivia : it's said that many of Bacons works were not declared in his estate and dozens went missing and it was assumed hidden by the boyfriend. The boyfriend had a Thai boyfriend who he apparently gave 6 Bacon paintings for safekeeping but forgot about them. That lad has no idea of their value..somewhere in the north of Thailand in a little village there is a traditional Thai hut with a family living as they have for years, and upon their walls are 6 bizarre paintings executed by Francis Bacon and worth probably about 30 milllion pounds !!! Start your search now.

This seems all too plausible.

One thing the Tate interpreters do mention is that Bacon was a great destructor not only of his work-in-progress and reference material, which he was in denial of the existence of, pretending to an immediacy that posthumous inspection of his studio belied, but also of finished works. Since many of his pieces are title "study of.." it's debatable whether he reagarded any of his work as finished. It is more than likely that boyfriends "protected" work that might otherwise have been destroyed.

I must say that to me Dyer, especially in the photographs bears quite a resemblance to one of the Krays, but maybe it's just the brylcremed quiff.

[Khor tose]

Lunchtime, as a member of the Commonwealth, you have missed out on some things us Yank produce. We had a wit, who would make Homi look sad. This wit agreed with you that life was unfair. I just finished reading one of his books, and I can't help myself. I give you the recently late George Carlin, an American genius of comedy.

“The most unfair thing about life is the way it ends. I mean, life is tough. It takes up a lot of your time. What do you get at the end of it? A Death! What's that, a bonus? I think the life cycle is all backwards. You should die first, get it out of the way. Then you live in an old age home. You get kicked out when you're too young, you get a gold watch, you go to work. You work forty years until you're young enough to enjoy your retirement. You do drugs, alcohol, you party, you get ready for high school. You go to grade school, you become a kid, you play, you have no responsibilities, you become a little baby, you go back into the womb, you spend your last nine months floating...


...and you finish off as an orgasm.”

[555]

Lunchtime you have had, and probably still enjoy, a fantastic life. I love art, however Francis is not that high on my list, but I do know his story. May I be so bold as to offer one slight correction? The boy who broke into his house is the subject of some of his paintings. His name was George Dyer. He died of an overdose of drugs sometime in the 70s. It was after dyer's death that he met Edward.

Oops. I shouldn't start responding till I've read the whole thread, should I.

I must say that I was much more dismissive of Bacon before this exhibition. But the energy and "multifacettedness" of the images is quite striking.

[homintern]

More importantly..why the fuck has Homintern been voted a person of note when he is completely disreputable and owes me so many lunches. ?? Why is life so unfair ?

I'm sure you know that famous saying "Life wasn't meant to be sleazy"

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

More importantly..why the fuck has Homintern been voted a person of note when he is completely disreputable and owes me so many lunches. ?? Why is life so unfair ?

I'm sure you know that famous saying "Life wasn't meant to be sleazy"

I've never actually heard that quote but if it was said-I've spent a lifetime ignoring it.

Recently. about a year ago, a London dustman put up for sale at Southebys, a large notebook filled with Bacon scribblings and drawings .shopping notes and such that he had found in Bacon's garbage can. He asked Bacon if he could keep it and Francis said "of course"

I think it sold for about 185,000 pounds.