There were gunshots in Sunee Plaza  late last nite, and several reliable sources reported that a girl/woman was shot 7 times and murdered near
Minou Boy Bar.  
There is a car parking area there and there is reputed to be drug dealing, especially after dark and when the bars close..
About 30 or 40 police swarmed in soon thereafter and found the girl dead with 7 bullets in her.
Speculation is that there was a lovers quarrel and someone was cheating with someone else..
 
Whatever the reason, it is frightening and another reason to be cautious.

I don't like to be the bearer of bad news and this is one "scoop" , I hestitated to start but it is important for posters to know
there is more happening beyond what we view thru the rose tinted glasses that many of us wear..

MY SOURCES WERE INCORRECT AND IT WAS A CASE OF WILDLY EXAGGERATED STORIES BEING TOLD AND DID REFER TO
THE LEG SHOOTING REPORTED BY THE PRESS..
BOTH HANS IS CORRECT AS ARE OTHERS THAT THIS 7 GUNSHOOTS STORY WASN'T TRUE AND I DO APOLOGIZE FOR
REPORTING A FALSEHOOD..
I WILL BE MORE CAREFUL WITH MY USUALLY RELIABLE SUNEE PLAZA SOURCES IN THE FUTURE...



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WTF is going on in Sunee? Did this only happen last night as in Sunday? There is still just under an hour until the bars close. What time did this hapen cat as there is nothing about it in the news as of yet.


George.

George, I heard about the shooting tonight, which is Monday and the incident happened late
Sunday nite,( technically very early Monday morning) around 1:30 AM .. I assume Minou was closed and the
area gets quite dark when the bar lites go off around 1 AM..

Several of the farangs saw the female victim the last few nites in Sunee hanging around on the motorbikes..
 

Thanks cat, sorry mate, my time zones are all over the place at the mo, having been through 4 different ones in the last week.


Choc Dee,


George.

Walking around ANYWHERE in Pattaya at 1:30AM after the bars close and the lights go out is dangerous. It happened in Sunee this time, but never lose sight of the fact that these things happen all the time all over Pattaya in the late night/early morning hours on an almost daily basis.

Soi 10 Tom wrote:

Walking around ANYWHERE in Pattaya at 1:30AM after the bars close and the lights go out is dangerous. It happened in Sunee this time, but never lose sight of the fact that these things happen all the time all over Pattaya in the late night/early morning hours on an almost daily basis.

Scaremonger!!!  Alarmist!!!  You're trying to make Pattaya sound like down-town Baghdad.

Yes these things happen from time to time but less often than in some towns in UK or USA.
You have a 12 times greater chance of dying from an infection caught inside a UK hosptal than from a violent incident in Pattaya.
Did you know that worldwide, over 150 people are killed each year by falling coconuts?
20,000 people die every year in the USA from flu!!!

Makes Pattaya sound rather tame, if you ask me.

Bwana wrote:

Did you know that worldwide, over 150 people are killed each year by falling coconuts?

I wonder how many people died each year by falling durians?     

Bwana...

When a person is shot to death, in the manner in which this girl apparently was, it is cause for alarm anywhere, even in the largest cities.

It's obvious that the escalation in the drug (yaba) trafficking effecting places like Pattaya, coupled with the lowest low season this town has seen in years, is the prime catalyst for this increase in street crimes.  I think Soi Tom is correct in warning people, especially any newcomers who may be reading this, that they should be very cautious of wandering around places like Sunee Plaza, Boyztown and the Soi Day/Night areas after the bars close, for exactly that reason.

The best advice is to travel in a small group, or at least with one other farang by your side, avoid the dark (unlit) sois like the plague, and whatever you do, if you roll out of the bar drunker than a skunk, go home, don't stumble around the sois asking for trouble.  And one more thing, leave those gold necklaces and diamond earrings at home, as these trinkets only impress the boys if they're the ones wearing them.  Don't make yourself a target.

We are assumming this is drug related but it is most likely a jealous boyfriend or husband gone beserk.  Sunee is very dark in some areas when the lights at the bars are out.  Going about alone is most dangerous after the bars close and one should stay in lighted areas.  Its not like it was a couple years ago when one need not worry to much about it.  I remember on my first trip in 94 feeling so secure at being out late by myself ( I am a loner) and the feeling of being free to be myself.  I now do my best not to draw attention to myself and I don't wear jewelry or carry large amounts of money.  I carry just enough in a spare wallet to cover what i feel i need for the night and I always hide a 1000baht note away seperately for emergencies.  Just think about what you need and what you are doing and you should be fine.

I hesitated to start this thread as I didn't want to be an alarmist and spook anyone anymore that we have all been spooked with
all the stuff that goes on here.
This is the first shooting murder in Sunee Plaza that I am aware of and the odds of a farang getting shoot are very small but why
make yourself a target and wander around in the wee hours, drunk as a skunk and flashing your cash and gold.

There was a shooting murder in Day-Nite last year in front of the now closed karaoke bar attached to Birdcage, then know as Guys.
A former poster here knew the boy posted about it.. As I recall the police caught the boys who shot the Thai boy and it was in the wee
hours just before or around dawn..

It is a good idea to avoid walking down dark sois after all the businesses close and the lites go off.  It is a good time to have a friend
or take a motorbike taxi home and leave the dark sois to the denizens of the nite.
Don't be afraid as this is a relatively safe place unlike places like Costa Rica, Brazil, and most places in the world.. I mention Costa Rica
and Brazil as guns are plentiful and violence against older gay men is far more commonplace.. I have no supporting data, so don't
bother to ask for proof..

catawampuscat wrote:

Don't be afraid as this is a relatively safe place unlike places like Costa Rica, Brazil, and most places in the world.. I mention Costa Rica
and Brazil as guns are plentiful and violence against older gay men is far more commonplace.. I have no supporting data, so don't
bother to ask for proof..

This is quite true. I spend several months a year in Brazil and it is not the safest place around.  It is often thought to be one of the most dangerous places.  I have been robbed at gunpoint twice there in the last few years and I know of many other visitors who are robbed and even killed.  The violence is not directed to foreigners, it is directed to anyone with cash or who look like they have cash.  For me, it was an ATM machine where this happened.  Not smart on my part to be there without a friend.  Pattaya is safe most of the time and for most people and I do think there is much more violence Thai against Thai and anything to do with Falang.  BUT, as tourism goes down, prices of gas and food go up, Falangs want to pay same prices as they have for years, money gets tougher and tougher to make, there may be a turn toward crime for many who would not have taken that direction had they have had money to eat, sleep and live.

There was a stabbing in Boystown last night about 11.00pm. In the massage place opposite Toy Boys. Boys got drunk, one stabbed another, mass fight etc. Dont know what happened to the victim

londonjim wrote:

There was a stabbing in Boystown last night about 11.00pm. In the massage place opposite Toy Boys. Boys got drunk, one stabbed another, mass fight etc. Dont know what happened to the victim

Now that scoop doesn't surprise me at all! That massage place is a right dive and doss house as well as a whore factory. Rumour has it that it is also a place to obtain illegal substances if you are known to them . Staying at LCR at the moment one can see the drunken and drugged 'boys' and their lady friends falling out of the door at breakfast time. The other morning they were trying to light a fire on the ground right in the middle of the soi to barbecue some chicken!

They don't seem to do much 'massaging' business anyway and can't see that the place will survive much longer even if the BIB don't close it down first.

I have to agree with Big Bwana..never felt in danger in Pattaya ( the lights go down ?) or Bangkok.

I was once attacked by 2 huge dogs in Chaing Mai whikle walking down a side street looking for a long gone Go Go Bar... they were behind a tin fence and could smell my blood..I'll never forget the imprints of the bodies as they flung themselves against the fence trying to get me.

I've been beaten up in highly respectable Notting Hill Gate and trawled every dangerous street in Manhattan including down by the docks and Hell's Kitchen at all hours but then finally got mugged in the lift at the Waldorf Astoria !

only had my heart broken in Pattaya !!

Woman shot following argument over Sunnee Plaza Bars

". . . She was taken to Hospital with a leg wound and Police are now searching for the shooter"

http://www.pattayaone.net/news_01_07_51_4.html

The above is a little bit different from the original post:

Catawampuscat wrote: About 30 or 40 police swarmed in soon thereafter and found the girl dead with 7 bullets in her.

  She doesn't look so bad in the picture